tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6689838439428844486.post3991184511561002142..comments2024-03-15T20:15:34.428+13:00Comments on ξενος: What do Adam and Satan have in common?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6689838439428844486.post-15605905287035219802012-02-29T16:19:14.303+13:002012-02-29T16:19:14.303+13:00Hi Paul, welcome to the blog. The section in NT W...Hi Paul, welcome to the blog. The section in NT Wright's Jesus and the Victory of God about Jesus' conflict with the satan is worth a read. Highlights the extent to which Jesus understood his ministry as spiritual warfare.<br /><br />Where things get interesting of course, if they weren't already, is if a fallen angel is responsible (at least in part) for the fall of humanity, then what caused that earlier fall? This is where i reach for my VHS of Time Bandits :-)Jonathan Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18295840754661890186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6689838439428844486.post-39291927911638403802012-02-28T21:48:57.116+13:002012-02-28T21:48:57.116+13:00It's amazing trying to have cogent conversatio...It's amazing trying to have cogent conversations with other Christians whose ideas of Satan and Adam come from the Medieval period — not even the NT writings, which were just starting to creep in those directions.<br /><br />I've been reading through the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Jewish apocrypha, and I think something (Zoroastrianism?) infected apocalyptic-minded Jews with the need to invent a devil. In the case of these apocryphal writings, you have something similar to the development of the Catholic Satan, only instead it's "Belial", a common noun meaning "worthless" and occasionally used in the OT to describe nasty people. By the time of the Qumran sect's writings, this word has been converted into a full-blown archenemy of God and the Messiah who will infects men with evil desires and will stand against the pure Qumranites and their priestly messiah in the final showdown. Of course, the NT isn't immune from this sect's thinking either, since Paul mentioned Belial once in a similar manner.<br /><br />Of course, the Enochic tradition, with its alternate proposals for the existence of evil, was also trying to invent a devil, except that the fallen angel Azazel was their candidate.Paul D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13483419817200339955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6689838439428844486.post-75839616760519240192012-02-28T09:06:11.185+13:002012-02-28T09:06:11.185+13:00and you Steve are invited to leave comments that a...and you Steve are invited to leave comments that actually relate to the post, not just promote your own website. seriously.Jonathan Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18295840754661890186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6689838439428844486.post-78274226494360287562012-02-28T03:52:01.100+13:002012-02-28T03:52:01.100+13:00you are invited to follow my blogyou are invited to follow my blogSteve Finnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15041851737677873347noreply@blogger.com